Several NY apple growers have indicated they see a marketing opportunity for NY grown organic apples (both fresh and processed products) and have requested a Cornell University led effort to develop a system of organic apple production for NY. In 2001 we studied insect pest management, fruit thinning, and weed control tactics that are organically approved. We have evaluated two organic approved insecticides (Surround and Aza-Direct) in season long programs. They both provided some pest control but less than half of the fruit was free from insect damage. Handgun treatments were better than airblast treatments. Both of the products showed some promise but organic growers will still have to accept considerably more insect damage than with conventional pest management products.